Comments on: Rav and Shmuel at the Gym: How Should We Begin the Passover Seder? http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/rav-and-shmuel-at-the-gym-how-should-we-begin-the-passover-seder/ A Progressive, Skeptical Blog on Israel, Judaism, Culture, Politics, and Literature Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:35:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Paul Kipnes http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/rav-and-shmuel-at-the-gym-how-should-we-begin-the-passover-seder/comment-page-1/#comment-8687 Paul Kipnes Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:44:05 +0000 http://southjerusalem.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-8687 So often we get lost in the past and forget the present. That Passover only has meaning if its message goads us to transform our society and the world for the better. Too often, we stay in the past... So often we get lost in the past and forget the present. That Passover only has meaning if its message goads us to transform our society and the world for the better. Too often, we stay in the past…

]]> By: Haim Watzman http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/rav-and-shmuel-at-the-gym-how-should-we-begin-the-passover-seder/comment-page-1/#comment-250 Haim Watzman Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:55:03 +0000 http://southjerusalem.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-250 David -- The exchange between Rav and Shmuel appears on Pesahim 116a. You might also be interested in a discussion of this (leading in a different direction) that I found while researching my piece: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16955/YU-PesachToGo-5767. Have a great Seder! Haim PS- I made a couple small stylistic changes in this piece yesterday in response to some comments I received. David –

The exchange between Rav and Shmuel appears on Pesahim 116a. You might also be interested in a discussion of this (leading in a different direction) that I found while researching my piece: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16955/YU-PesachToGo-5767.

Have a great Seder!

Haim

PS- I made a couple small stylistic changes in this piece yesterday in response to some comments I received.

]]> By: David Greenberg http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/rav-and-shmuel-at-the-gym-how-should-we-begin-the-passover-seder/comment-page-1/#comment-249 David Greenberg Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:48:26 +0000 http://southjerusalem.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-249 Can you supply the citation in the Talmud for the passage you discussed? Feel free to respond here or to my email address. I'd like to integrate this into my seder later in the week. Thanks. Can you supply the citation in the Talmud for the passage you discussed? Feel free to respond here or to my email address. I’d like to integrate this into my seder later in the week. Thanks.

]]> By: Tzvi Mackson http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/rav-and-shmuel-at-the-gym-how-should-we-begin-the-passover-seder/comment-page-1/#comment-248 Tzvi Mackson Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:21:26 +0000 http://southjerusalem.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-248 Thank you, Chaim. The passage about arami oved avi always reminds me that even though Lavan oppressed our father, he also is our father, through Rachel and Leah. Maybe matrilileal geneology did not mean much at the time, but he's an ancestor just the same. Thank you, Chaim. The passage about arami oved avi always reminds me that even though Lavan oppressed our father, he also is our father, through Rachel and Leah. Maybe matrilileal geneology did not mean much at the time, but he’s an ancestor just the same.

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