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	<title>Comments on: Journey to Wadi al-Shajneh: The Illusion of Quiet</title>
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		<title>By: FAQ: Amalek, Goldberg, Netayahu and Iran</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/journey-to-wadi-al-shajneh-the-illusion-of-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-10922</link>
		<dc:creator>FAQ: Amalek, Goldberg, Netayahu and Iran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My friend, historian Elliott Horowitz (occasional contributor to SoJo, and my companion on several West Bank journeys) is an expert on the development of the Amalek myth. (See his fine book, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My friend, historian Elliott Horowitz (occasional contributor to SoJo, and my companion on several West Bank journeys) is an expert on the development of the Amalek myth. (See his fine book, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: City of Patriarchs and Police</title>
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		<dc:creator>City of Patriarchs and Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (some of whom I had already visited on previous trips - see Gershom&#8217;s blog reports here, here and here) or the ex-soldiers of Shovrim Shtikah, but people who go home to their wives and children [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (some of whom I had already visited on previous trips &#8211; see Gershom&#8217;s blog reports here, here and here) or the ex-soldiers of Shovrim Shtikah, but people who go home to their wives and children [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Return to Hebron, City of Nightmares and Hope</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/journey-to-wadi-al-shajneh-the-illusion-of-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-5367</link>
		<dc:creator>Return to Hebron, City of Nightmares and Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what we could do about the desecration of God&#8217;s name. Yehiel and Elliot, my companions on previous trips into nightmare country, were ready to go on our own. But I got back a message that Bnei Avraham [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what we could do about the desecration of God&#8217;s name. Yehiel and Elliot, my companions on previous trips into nightmare country, were ready to go on our own. But I got back a message that Bnei Avraham [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jewschool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And then, sometimes, there is hope&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/journey-to-wadi-al-shajneh-the-illusion-of-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewschool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And then, sometimes, there is hope&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] outing (involving a washing machine and an abuse of power) can be found here. The latest chapter is here. Three men in a battered station wagon do not a revolution make. And yet&#8230; it is the blatant [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] outing (involving a washing machine and an abuse of power) can be found here. The latest chapter is here. Three men in a battered station wagon do not a revolution make. And yet&#8230; it is the blatant [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/journey-to-wadi-al-shajneh-the-illusion-of-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.Gorenberg, you are a beautiful human being.
I am Russian living in the USA.  On one of the human rights forum I met lots of Russian Jewish emigrants living in Israel and in the US.
I wish they would feel one hundredth of compassion you show!  They call Palestinians &quot;animals&quot;  and declare that a good Palestinian is dead Palestinian. They also call people like you &quot;useful idiots&quot;.
When I visited Israel, I met many young Israelis thinking like you. They were asking me to let Americans know that not everybody in Israel wants war and hatred. They were beautiful, idealistic and determined that their generation will be able to make peace with the Palestinians. Ever since my visit  I consider it is  my debt of honor to let people know about the Israelis who want peace.
Unfortunately, on the Russian forum I am vilified and ridiculed for my views, and sometimes called  antisemitic.
Finding your blog is like a breath of fresh air for me!
 You really exist!  I am not dreaming! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Gorenberg, you are a beautiful human being.<br />
I am Russian living in the USA.  On one of the human rights forum I met lots of Russian Jewish emigrants living in Israel and in the US.<br />
I wish they would feel one hundredth of compassion you show!  They call Palestinians &#8220;animals&#8221;  and declare that a good Palestinian is dead Palestinian. They also call people like you &#8220;useful idiots&#8221;.<br />
When I visited Israel, I met many young Israelis thinking like you. They were asking me to let Americans know that not everybody in Israel wants war and hatred. They were beautiful, idealistic and determined that their generation will be able to make peace with the Palestinians. Ever since my visit  I consider it is  my debt of honor to let people know about the Israelis who want peace.<br />
Unfortunately, on the Russian forum I am vilified and ridiculed for my views, and sometimes called  antisemitic.<br />
Finding your blog is like a breath of fresh air for me!<br />
 You really exist!  I am not dreaming! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Lesses</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/journey-to-wadi-al-shajneh-the-illusion-of-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Lesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niqnaq, do you really think that without the Zionist project, as you call it, that the Jews currently living in Israel will rush to embrace their brothers from Hamas (and vice versa)? It&#039;s a nice utopian vision, but I honestly don&#039;t see how it can come true in reality. Perhaps instead of indulging in utopian visions, we should try to figure out how to actually fulfill the two-state solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niqnaq, do you really think that without the Zionist project, as you call it, that the Jews currently living in Israel will rush to embrace their brothers from Hamas (and vice versa)? It&#8217;s a nice utopian vision, but I honestly don&#8217;t see how it can come true in reality. Perhaps instead of indulging in utopian visions, we should try to figure out how to actually fulfill the two-state solution.</p>
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		<title>By: niqnaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>niqnaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that a moral man belonging to the occupying people should leave the country and go into self-exile. The little palliative gestures you can make are in an infernal manner legitimising the injustice, by giving it an illusory air of common humanity. There will be no common humanity there until the premises of the zionist project are overthrown, and this will only occur as a by-product of the final collapse of Western imperialism, which, fortunately for us all, seems to be fairly imminent.

It is conceivable that after the West has lost its self-declared global primacy, its so-called &#039;hegemony&#039;, Jews and Arabs and Russians and what-have-you will live together in the region on a different basis, one not premised on colonialist racial supremacism. That would be something to look forward to, and I don&#039;t think it would be publicly described as an expression of any one belief system, because when many belief systems co-exist, they naturally return to the private sphere. Jews quietly give thanks that something in their heritage has come true, Christians similarly, and Muslims similarly. No one can claim an over-arching confirmation of any one view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that a moral man belonging to the occupying people should leave the country and go into self-exile. The little palliative gestures you can make are in an infernal manner legitimising the injustice, by giving it an illusory air of common humanity. There will be no common humanity there until the premises of the zionist project are overthrown, and this will only occur as a by-product of the final collapse of Western imperialism, which, fortunately for us all, seems to be fairly imminent.</p>
<p>It is conceivable that after the West has lost its self-declared global primacy, its so-called &#8216;hegemony&#8217;, Jews and Arabs and Russians and what-have-you will live together in the region on a different basis, one not premised on colonialist racial supremacism. That would be something to look forward to, and I don&#8217;t think it would be publicly described as an expression of any one belief system, because when many belief systems co-exist, they naturally return to the private sphere. Jews quietly give thanks that something in their heritage has come true, Christians similarly, and Muslims similarly. No one can claim an over-arching confirmation of any one view.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gershom, you&#039;re really an awesome person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gershom, you&#8217;re really an awesome person.</p>
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