Comments on: A Stamp for Letters to the Edge of Madness http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/ A Progressive, Skeptical Blog on Israel, Judaism, Culture, Politics, and Literature Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:35:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Michael http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 Michael Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:31:24 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1270 I thought this was some kind of sick joke until I saw the picture. I shall never use theses stamps. The fact that the orange-brigade rallied near the Gaza border last week in the belief that one day they will 'resettle' the place that no other Israeli want to go to, just shows that three years after they are more insane than ever. I don't know if the KKK is the correct analogy for the far-right settlers, but delusions of racial supremacy is one thing they have in common. I thought this was some kind of sick joke until I saw the picture. I shall never use theses stamps.

The fact that the orange-brigade rallied near the Gaza border last week in the belief that one day they will ‘resettle’ the place that no other Israeli want to go to, just shows that three years after they are more insane than ever.

I don’t know if the KKK is the correct analogy for the far-right settlers, but delusions of racial supremacy is one thing they have in common.

]]> By: The Educator Who Can’t See Arab Blood http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 The Educator Who Can’t See Arab Blood Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:46:53 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1236 [...] (Though all historical parallels are rough, this is the basis for my rhetorical comparison in a previous post between an Israeli stamp adorned with the orange ribbon of the anti-disengagement movement and an [...] [...] (Though all historical parallels are rough, this is the basis for my rhetorical comparison in a previous post between an Israeli stamp adorned with the orange ribbon of the anti-disengagement movement and an [...]

]]> By: Y. Ben-David http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1214 Y. Ben-David Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:08:43 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1214 Fiddler- This item you brought is as crazy and unrealistic as when in the 18th century, the Baal Shem Tov and Vilna Gaon and their students started teaching people to prepare for having the Jews return to Eretz Israel by buying land and building agricultural and urban communities. Totally off the wall, right? Fiddler-
This item you brought is as crazy and unrealistic as when in the 18th century, the Baal Shem Tov and Vilna Gaon and their students started teaching people to prepare for having the Jews return to Eretz Israel by buying land and building agricultural and urban communities.

Totally off the wall, right?

]]> By: fiddler http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1210 fiddler Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:29:48 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1210 Gershom, have you read this? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008454.html Settler group planning to reestablish Gaza bloc The Homesh First Movement is expected to announce Tuesday that settlement groups are planning to return to settlements in Gush Katif evacuated during the August 2005 disengagement from the Gaza Strip. The core settlement groups hope to return the minute it is acceptable from a security standpoint, explained Boaz Haetzni, one of the leaders of the movement. (...) Gershom, have you read this? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008454.html

Settler group planning to reestablish Gaza bloc

The Homesh First Movement is expected to announce Tuesday that settlement groups are planning to return to settlements in Gush Katif evacuated during the August 2005 disengagement from the Gaza Strip. The core settlement groups hope to return the minute it is acceptable from a security standpoint, explained Boaz Haetzni, one of the leaders of the movement.
(…)

]]> By: Sabba Hillel http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Sabba Hillel Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:34:01 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1196 Pointing out the hypocrisy of the left (as well as the Al Gore analogy above) does not necessarily show that they are wrong. However, it does show thatthey are following an agenda whichdiscredits their arguments. That is, Al Gore has shown that he does not believe in the "global warming" mythology that he is promoting. Similarly, the leftists have shown that they do not believe in the "morality" of their cause but are just interested in destroying the state of Israel. If their arguments are analyzed, we find that they want to set the Eastern borde of the state of Israel at a point 200 miles <b>west</b> of Tel Aviv. Pointing out the hypocrisy of the left (as well as the Al Gore analogy above) does not necessarily show that they are wrong. However, it does show thatthey are following an agenda whichdiscredits their arguments.

That is, Al Gore has shown that he does not believe in the “global warming” mythology that he is promoting. Similarly, the leftists have shown that they do not believe in the “morality” of their cause but are just interested in destroying the state of Israel. If their arguments are analyzed, we find that they want to set the Eastern borde of the state of Israel at a point 200 miles west of Tel Aviv.

]]> By: William Burns http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 William Burns Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:18:56 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1172 The idea that pointing out a person's hypocrisy amounts to a refutation of their claims is a fallacy, like saying that because Al Gore uses a lot of energy flying from place to place there's no such thing as global warming. The idea that pointing out a person’s hypocrisy amounts to a refutation of their claims is a fallacy, like saying that because Al Gore uses a lot of energy flying from place to place there’s no such thing as global warming.

]]> By: Marc http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1170 Marc Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:17:03 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1170 This is so trite it is almost a parody of the "left" in Israel. "Ooh, the settlements are bad" whine, whine, whine...Not to mention look what a great job the Arabs did with the land when it was "returned". Ridiculous. To compare this to the KKK is just plain assinine. This is so trite it is almost a parody of the “left” in Israel. “Ooh, the settlements are bad” whine, whine, whine…Not to mention look what a great job the Arabs did with the land when it was “returned”. Ridiculous. To compare this to the KKK is just plain assinine.

]]> By: george a.hilborn http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1169 george a.hilborn Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:49:46 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1169 This argument reminds me of the Pro-Life fetus moralists who are all hung-up on when life begins but yet are some of the strongest Pro-Death penalty supporters. I would have some respect for their position if they were consistent. I see the merit in Y David's position it can be compared to the " limousine liberals " who like Robert Rubin in the Clinton Administration whose policies helped Citi-Group and others in the financial world and decreased oversight helping to perpetuate the mess we are in now and blame everything on the mediocracy of Bush. " People in glass houses should'nt throw stones" Israel holds the land because of military superiority and blood , sweat, and tears. I can't think of another people in history who gave up any of their home land just for peace ,but there is a first time for everything. This argument reminds me of the Pro-Life fetus moralists who are all hung-up on when life begins but yet are some of the strongest Pro-Death penalty supporters. I would have some respect for their position if they were consistent.

I see the merit in Y David’s position it can be compared to the ” limousine liberals ” who like Robert Rubin in the Clinton Administration whose policies helped Citi-Group and others in the financial world and decreased oversight helping to perpetuate the mess we are in now and blame everything on the mediocracy of Bush. ” People in glass houses should’nt throw stones”

Israel holds the land because of military superiority and blood , sweat, and tears. I can’t think of another people in history who gave up any of their home land just for peace ,but there is a first time for everything.

]]> By: Shiiz http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1166 Shiiz Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:28:26 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1166 I think that what this post says is right. I also think that Y. Ben David is wrong. I think that what this post says is right. I also think that Y. Ben David is wrong.

]]> By: Y. Ben-David http://southjerusalem.com/2008/08/a-stamp-for-letters-to-the-edge-of-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1163 Y. Ben-David Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:53:42 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=254#comment-1163 The hypocrisy of you so-called "Progressives" is truly breathtaking. You set yourselves up as true "tzaddikim" because you call those "vile settlers in Gush Katif" a Jewish version of the KKK, yet YOU, and YOUR YEDIDYAH CONGREGATION are , at this very moment, sitting on STOLEN ARAB LAND, just like your bastion of "progressivism", Tel Aviv University, sitting on the stolen land of the Arab village of Sheikh Munis. Don't forget, the Arabs call the Naqba (Catastrophe) the 1948 War, NOT the 1967 War. It is the loss of your Baka neighborhood and the land of your "progressive" Yedidya Congregation that they mourn to this day. All you are doing in calling the people of Gush Katif vile, false epithets, is pathetically attempting to transfer YOUR GUILT , the guilt YOU FEEL for YOUR LIVING ON STOLEN ARAB LAND to somebody else to salve your guilty concience. I can respect someone who says "Yes, Eretz Israel belongs to the Jewish people but for pragmatic reasons, we should be willing to divide it", even though I don't agree with it, but your pathetic "Progressive" attempts to vilify those who did the same thing as the warriors of 1948, only in 1967 (which you suddenly turn around and claim is a crime) and to celebrate the destruction of the flourishing communities they built out of some perverse "morality" that your Arab friends view as hypocritical are truly sickening. You are always regaling us with stories about what tzaddikim you are, tracking down Arabs with dubious stories of being victims of "racist oppression" IDF soldiers, and your saintly refusal to pay a bribe to a municipal official in order to get a building permits for your Yedidyah Congregation...well why don't you really do what needs to be done......track down the Arabs who owned the land whose land you are living and praying on and pay them for it, or better yet, you move out and let them move back in. Then I will really respect your "morals". The hypocrisy of you so-called “Progressives” is truly breathtaking. You set yourselves up as true “tzaddikim” because you call those “vile settlers in Gush Katif” a Jewish version of the KKK, yet YOU, and YOUR YEDIDYAH CONGREGATION are , at this very moment, sitting on STOLEN ARAB LAND, just like your bastion of “progressivism”, Tel Aviv University, sitting on the stolen land of the Arab village of Sheikh Munis. Don’t forget, the Arabs call the Naqba (Catastrophe) the 1948 War, NOT the 1967 War. It is the loss of your Baka neighborhood and the land of your “progressive” Yedidya Congregation that they mourn to this day. All you are doing in calling the people of Gush Katif vile, false epithets, is pathetically attempting to transfer YOUR GUILT , the guilt YOU FEEL for YOUR LIVING ON STOLEN ARAB LAND to somebody else to salve your guilty concience. I can respect someone who says “Yes, Eretz Israel belongs to the Jewish people but for pragmatic reasons, we should be willing to divide it”, even though I don’t agree with it, but your pathetic “Progressive” attempts to vilify those who did the same thing as the warriors of 1948, only in 1967 (which you suddenly turn around and claim is a crime) and to celebrate the destruction of the flourishing communities they built out of some perverse “morality” that your Arab friends view as hypocritical are truly sickening.
You are always regaling us with stories about what tzaddikim you are, tracking down Arabs with dubious stories of being victims of “racist oppression” IDF soldiers, and your saintly refusal to pay a bribe to a municipal official in order to get a building permits for your Yedidyah Congregation…well why don’t you really do what needs to be done……track down the Arabs who owned the land whose land you are living and praying on and pay them for it, or better yet, you move out and let them move back in. Then I will really respect your “morals”.

]]>