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	<title>Comments on: Hope Envy</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first two comments to this post make a strong argument for those who would argue that your ideas, while possibly justifiable and meritorious in some sort of theoretical realm of ideas, in reality serve only to pull the rhetorical advantage over to the side of those who would rather see Israel not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first two comments to this post make a strong argument for those who would argue that your ideas, while possibly justifiable and meritorious in some sort of theoretical realm of ideas, in reality serve only to pull the rhetorical advantage over to the side of those who would rather see Israel not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Haim Watzman</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/11/hope-envy/comment-page-1/#comment-4210</link>
		<dc:creator>Haim Watzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... a choice between plague and contagion&quot;! Sarid certainly has a way with words, but his call for Jerusalem&#039;s liberal-left citizens not to vote for mayor is unconscionable. There&#039;s a clear choice in the mayoral race, as I&#039;ve written here (http://southjerusalem.com/2008/10/haaretz-gets-it-wrong-in-jerusalems-mayoral-race/). Our opposition to the construction of settlements and Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem must not mislead us into dooming our city to five more years of corrupt sectorial government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; a choice between plague and contagion&#8221;! Sarid certainly has a way with words, but his call for Jerusalem&#8217;s liberal-left citizens not to vote for mayor is unconscionable. There&#8217;s a clear choice in the mayoral race, as I&#8217;ve written here (<a href="http://southjerusalem.com/2008/10/haaretz-gets-it-wrong-in-jerusalems-mayoral-race/" rel="nofollow">http://southjerusalem.com/2008/10/haaretz-gets-it-wrong-in-jerusalems-mayoral-race/</a>). Our opposition to the construction of settlements and Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem must not mislead us into dooming our city to five more years of corrupt sectorial government.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s confusing to me that you&#039;d call the one-state solution a non-solution and imply that the two state solution would work in the long term. 

One would think that Obama&#039;s election would be a sign that ethnic and religious pluralism is a good thing that doesn&#039;t have to result in &quot;internal eternal ethnic conflict.&quot; 

I can understand how one might think mixing would have to lead to such conflict forty-five years ago, when blacks couldn&#039;t even vote in Virginia or North Carolina, or sixty years ago, when state legislatures were thinking about extending Jim Crow separation to Jim Crow counties (bantustans).

But today, to dismiss the idea of a multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy between the Jordan and the Mediterranean seems to have missed the entire point of what makes Obama&#039;s success such a watershed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s confusing to me that you&#8217;d call the one-state solution a non-solution and imply that the two state solution would work in the long term. </p>
<p>One would think that Obama&#8217;s election would be a sign that ethnic and religious pluralism is a good thing that doesn&#8217;t have to result in &#8220;internal eternal ethnic conflict.&#8221; </p>
<p>I can understand how one might think mixing would have to lead to such conflict forty-five years ago, when blacks couldn&#8217;t even vote in Virginia or North Carolina, or sixty years ago, when state legislatures were thinking about extending Jim Crow separation to Jim Crow counties (bantustans).</p>
<p>But today, to dismiss the idea of a multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy between the Jordan and the Mediterranean seems to have missed the entire point of what makes Obama&#8217;s success such a watershed.</p>
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		<title>By: Raed Kami</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2008/11/hope-envy/comment-page-1/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>Raed Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much intelligence going to waste to figure out what every 5 year old knows. What is stolen must be returned to its original owners. Palestine must be returned to its original owners. Every child knows you can have Israel or peace, but not both. The most insulting thing is that you consider yourself a progressive when you occupy stolen land. From the standpoint of those who revere international law and justice, you are indistinguishable from Baruch Goldstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much intelligence going to waste to figure out what every 5 year old knows. What is stolen must be returned to its original owners. Palestine must be returned to its original owners. Every child knows you can have Israel or peace, but not both. The most insulting thing is that you consider yourself a progressive when you occupy stolen land. From the standpoint of those who revere international law and justice, you are indistinguishable from Baruch Goldstein</p>
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