Comments on: Feiglin and Fascism http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/ A Progressive, Skeptical Blog on Israel, Judaism, Culture, Politics, and Literature Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:35:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Melvin Schnell http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-5798 Melvin Schnell Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:19:05 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=703#comment-5798 You have tried everything else-secular zionist, post zionism, nothing has worked. The world is still laughing at you. Why not Feiglin You have tried everything else-secular zionist, post zionism, nothing has worked. The world is still laughing at you. Why not Feiglin

]]> By: Yisrael Medad http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-5706 Yisrael Medad Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:12:01 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=703#comment-5706 Sorry, that "translator" remark was an error. But Gershom knows Hebrew enough in any case. Sorry, that “translator” remark was an error. But Gershom knows Hebrew enough in any case.

]]> By: Yisrael Medad http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-5705 Yisrael Medad Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:10:09 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=703#comment-5705 I would think that a translator knows his Hebrew. When you write "a Hebrew document proposes..." at Feiglin's site, it would behoove you to note that the document was composed by Prof. Hill Weiss and that it was uploaded a part of an internals discussion as to the future character of a Jewish state. To suggest that that document is the accepted approach, decided upon at some official convocation is, well, let's call a spade a spade: reprehensible or in Hebrew, גניבת הדעת but this is a "progressive" blog, so I guess that's to be expected. Too bad that went out to the goyim in the Amer. Prospect. I would think that a translator knows his Hebrew. When you write “a Hebrew document proposes…” at Feiglin’s site, it would behoove you to note that the document was composed by Prof. Hill Weiss and that it was uploaded a part of an internals discussion as to the future character of a Jewish state. To suggest that that document is the accepted approach, decided upon at some official convocation is, well, let’s call a spade a spade: reprehensible or in Hebrew, גניבת הדעת but this is a “progressive” blog, so I guess that’s to be expected. Too bad that went out to the goyim in the Amer. Prospect.

]]> By: Bloix http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-5610 Bloix Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:43:18 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=703#comment-5610 http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_a14232/News/Israel.html “The man Netanyahu actively campaigned to keep from winning a top spot on the party list, far-right candidate Moshe Feiglin, ended up winning 8,000 of the fewer than 50,000 votes cast. But that was enough to earn him the 20th spot on Likud’s list and likely high enough for him to win a Knesset seat… In another rebuke of Netanyahu, 19 of the candidates Feiglin endorsed landed among the top 36 candidates in a field of more than 140. The Haaretz-Dialog poll conducted a day after the primary showed that if the general election was held now, Likud would still win 36 Knesset seats… Feiglin also helped to bring into Likud some new faces… Another of his candidates, Gilad Erdan, came in third. He is a strong defender of conservative values and of keeping all of Israel’s biblical lands… One silver lining for Likud and its right-wing shift is that the party may now have an easier time reaching out to the ideological national religious right that used to vote for smaller niche parties, according to Aryeh Eldad, a veteran of the National Union party who is forming his own secular far-right party this year… “A lot of right-wing voters will look at the Likud, see Begin and Feiglin, and think this is the right-wing party we dreamed about,” he said. http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_a14232/News/Israel.html

“The man Netanyahu actively campaigned to keep from winning a top spot on the party list, far-right candidate Moshe Feiglin, ended up winning 8,000 of the fewer than 50,000 votes cast. But that was enough to earn him the 20th spot on Likud’s list and likely high enough for him to win a Knesset seat…

In another rebuke of Netanyahu, 19 of the candidates Feiglin endorsed landed among the top 36 candidates in a field of more than 140.

The Haaretz-Dialog poll conducted a day after the primary showed that if the general election was held now, Likud would still win 36 Knesset seats…

Feiglin also helped to bring into Likud some new faces…

Another of his candidates, Gilad Erdan, came in third. He is a strong defender of conservative values and of keeping all of Israel’s biblical lands…

One silver lining for Likud and its right-wing shift is that the party may now have an easier time reaching out to the ideological national religious right that used to vote for smaller niche parties, according to Aryeh Eldad, a veteran of the National Union party who is forming his own secular far-right party this year…

“A lot of right-wing voters will look at the Likud, see Begin and Feiglin, and think this is the right-wing party we dreamed about,” he said.

]]> By: Y. Ben-David http://southjerusalem.com/2008/12/feiglin-and-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-5609 Y. Ben-David Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:26:08 +0000 http://southjerusalem.com/?p=703#comment-5609 Feiglin is no threat. Most people on what you would call "the Far Right" strongly oppose him, including myself. His "Manhigut Yehudit" (MY) is a self-destructive organization that has alienated a very large number of people who would have otherwise supported them. I'll bet you don't even know that Ehud Olmert today is Prime Minister thanks to Feiglin. How is this? MY is an organization that has no ideology other than getting Feiglin into the Knesset. In order to accomplish this, they have, in the past, supported the most Leftist elements in the Likud. They allied themselves with Sharon's people in 2003 (it was THEY who encouraged Feiglin to join the Likud). They thus supported Olmert, who got something like spot 35 on the 2003 list. Without Feiglin's support he never would have gotten into the Knesset. They also supported most of the people Sharon brought into the Likud who supported destroying Gush Katif and who were the ones who ended up in Kadima. I know for a fact they blocked several outstanding, intelligent right-wingers, some of whom are religious and instead supported some real dishonest airheads. Thus, they are no different than any of the rest of the mediocrities that are in the political system today. Don't worry about them. Feiglin is no threat. Most people on what you would call “the Far Right” strongly oppose him, including myself. His “Manhigut Yehudit” (MY) is a self-destructive organization that has alienated a very large number of people who would have otherwise supported them. I’ll bet you don’t even know that Ehud Olmert today is Prime Minister thanks to Feiglin. How is this? MY is an organization that has no ideology other than getting Feiglin into the Knesset. In order to accomplish this, they have, in the past, supported the most Leftist elements in the Likud. They allied themselves with Sharon’s people in 2003 (it was THEY who encouraged Feiglin to join the Likud). They thus supported Olmert, who got something like spot 35 on the 2003 list. Without Feiglin’s support he never would have gotten into the Knesset. They also supported most of the people Sharon brought into the Likud who supported destroying Gush Katif and who were the ones who ended up in Kadima. I know for a fact they blocked several outstanding, intelligent right-wingers, some of whom are religious and instead supported some real dishonest airheads. Thus, they are no different than any of the rest of the mediocrities that are in the political system today. Don’t worry about them.

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