<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The People&#8217;s Holy Space</title>
	<atom:link href="http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/</link>
	<description>A Progressive, Skeptical Blog on Israel, Judaism, Culture, Politics, and Literature</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: A Jewish Fable Has An Argument, Not a Moral</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18987</link>
		<dc:creator>A Jewish Fable Has An Argument, Not a Moral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18987</guid>
		<description>[...] The People&#8217;s Holy Space  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The People&#8217;s Holy Space  [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ittay</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18878</link>
		<dc:creator>ittay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18878</guid>
		<description>great article. you forgot to mention that the eithiopian sigd festival also takes place on the tayelet. 
see   http://www.pbase.com/yanaide/sigd
I can&#039;t think of a better location for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article. you forgot to mention that the eithiopian sigd festival also takes place on the tayelet.<br />
see   <a href="http://www.pbase.com/yanaide/sigd" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbase.com/yanaide/sigd</a><br />
I can&#8217;t think of a better location for it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18761</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18761</guid>
		<description>Years ago we stayed in South Talpiot and visited the then new promenade overlooking the city. It&#039;s wonderful to hear what it has become. I hope that Lawrence Halprin, one of the two architects that planned this,  knew of this success before he passed away  in late October. The New York Times obituary quotes a Wapo architecture critic on Halprin: “All of Halprin’s designs reflect this passion to give people as many options as possible to go this way or that, to reverse directions, to pause, to start over, to be alone, to meet others, and to experience as many different sights, smells and sounds as the site permits,” 

NYTimes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/arts/design/28halprin.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Laerence%20Halprin&amp;st&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obituary&lt;/a&gt; of  landscape architect LawrenceHalprin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago we stayed in South Talpiot and visited the then new promenade overlooking the city. It&#8217;s wonderful to hear what it has become. I hope that Lawrence Halprin, one of the two architects that planned this,  knew of this success before he passed away  in late October. The New York Times obituary quotes a Wapo architecture critic on Halprin: “All of Halprin’s designs reflect this passion to give people as many options as possible to go this way or that, to reverse directions, to pause, to start over, to be alone, to meet others, and to experience as many different sights, smells and sounds as the site permits,” </p>
<p>NYTimes <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/arts/design/28halprin.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Laerence%20Halprin&amp;st" rel="nofollow">obituary</a> of  landscape architect LawrenceHalprin</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: aliyah06</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18733</link>
		<dc:creator>aliyah06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18733</guid>
		<description>The promenades are beautiful, and link different neighborhoods, both Jewish and Moslem, together, and both peoples walk there, talk there (even together), worship there, picnic there, and play soccer and fly kites there. I used to live a block from the tayelet and saw beauty and co-existence where there was once barbed wire and mine fields. &quot;Ugly&quot; in this context is in the hate of the ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The promenades are beautiful, and link different neighborhoods, both Jewish and Moslem, together, and both peoples walk there, talk there (even together), worship there, picnic there, and play soccer and fly kites there. I used to live a block from the tayelet and saw beauty and co-existence where there was once barbed wire and mine fields. &#8220;Ugly&#8221; in this context is in the hate of the ignorant.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael Maltsev</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18648</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Maltsev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18648</guid>
		<description>These promenades are an ugly eyesore built upon stolen Palestinian land. It is an obscenity for you to worship there unless you are worshipping the dollar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These promenades are an ugly eyesore built upon stolen Palestinian land. It is an obscenity for you to worship there unless you are worshipping the dollar</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://southjerusalem.com/2009/11/the-peoples-holy-space/comment-page-1/#comment-18619</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://southjerusalem.com/?p=1724#comment-18619</guid>
		<description>Interesting article, especially the bit about religious activities being a conscious part of the original design.

While the choice of this site may be grass-roots, the religious practice as described doesn&#039;t sound that way.  Conservative and Modern Orthodox Judaism, Evangelical Christianity, Islam - all of these are organized religious movements or religions.  But there are true grass-roots, folk-religious sites in Israel: the graves of famous rabbis.  They&#039;re sites of pilgrimage for both religious and nonreligious Israeli Jews (mostly Sephardi it seems), many of whom arrive on chartered buses. 

Also, your description of the scene at the &lt;i&gt;kotel&lt;/i&gt; (Western Wall) actually sounds pretty good by the standards of this article.  It&#039;s multivocal (&quot;different styles&quot;), lively (&quot;cacophonous&quot;), &quot;incomplete&quot;, &quot;unplanned&quot;, anarchic.  The &lt;i&gt;tayelet&lt;/i&gt; by contrast, despite the free activity there, was carefully, consciously, rationally planned  by architects.   So that  one paragraph on the &lt;i&gt;kotel&lt;/i&gt; kind of subverts the message you were overtly trying to get across.

Anyway, there&#039;s only one &lt;i&gt;kotel&lt;/i&gt;, so it&#039;s a good thing that it&#039;s controlled by some single traditional voice of Judaism.    It&#039;s a good thing that the &lt;i&gt;tayelet&lt;/i&gt; and other unofficial sites are not under any such control.  Once again, the State of Israel manages to find, implicitly, a workable arrangement with Judaism.  And the establishment hasn&#039;t tried to suppress or co-opt  pilgrimages to rabbis&#039; graves - a true folk religious practice - so I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about the &lt;i&gt;tayelet&lt;/i&gt; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, especially the bit about religious activities being a conscious part of the original design.</p>
<p>While the choice of this site may be grass-roots, the religious practice as described doesn&#8217;t sound that way.  Conservative and Modern Orthodox Judaism, Evangelical Christianity, Islam &#8211; all of these are organized religious movements or religions.  But there are true grass-roots, folk-religious sites in Israel: the graves of famous rabbis.  They&#8217;re sites of pilgrimage for both religious and nonreligious Israeli Jews (mostly Sephardi it seems), many of whom arrive on chartered buses. </p>
<p>Also, your description of the scene at the <i>kotel</i> (Western Wall) actually sounds pretty good by the standards of this article.  It&#8217;s multivocal (&#8220;different styles&#8221;), lively (&#8220;cacophonous&#8221;), &#8220;incomplete&#8221;, &#8220;unplanned&#8221;, anarchic.  The <i>tayelet</i> by contrast, despite the free activity there, was carefully, consciously, rationally planned  by architects.   So that  one paragraph on the <i>kotel</i> kind of subverts the message you were overtly trying to get across.</p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s only one <i>kotel</i>, so it&#8217;s a good thing that it&#8217;s controlled by some single traditional voice of Judaism.    It&#8217;s a good thing that the <i>tayelet</i> and other unofficial sites are not under any such control.  Once again, the State of Israel manages to find, implicitly, a workable arrangement with Judaism.  And the establishment hasn&#8217;t tried to suppress or co-opt  pilgrimages to rabbis&#8217; graves &#8211; a true folk religious practice &#8211; so I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about the <i>tayelet</i> either.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

