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		<title>Recycled: A Note to Hillary on Jerusalem Disunited</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gershom Gorenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year I wrote an open letter to Hillary Clinton, then frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, on the mistake she was making by promising support for &#8220;united Jerusalem&#8221; &#8211; or rather the mistake in believing there was any such thing as undivided Jerusalem. A very long year has passed, and Barack Obama has just chosen [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I wrote an open letter to Hillary Clinton, then frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, on the mistake she was making by promising support for &#8220;united Jerusalem&#8221; &#8211; or rather the mistake in believing there was any such thing as undivided Jerusalem.</p>
<p>A very long year has passed, and Barack Obama has just chosen Hillary as his secretary of state. Freed of the need to win reelection as senator, burdened with responsibility for policy toward Israel and the Palestinians, she has the opportunity and obligation to update her understanding of our riven city. So here&#8217;s some reading material for her (the start below, the rest at <a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=a_note_to_hillary_on_jerusalem_disunited" target="_blank">The American Prospect</a>). Just trade &#8220;candidate&#8221; and &#8220;president&#8221; for &#8220;secretary&#8221; and it reads fine.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Hillary,</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>A colleague alerted me to your recent <a href="http://www.justhillary.com/herwords/israel0911.php">position paper on Israel</a>, with your promise of support for an &#8220;undivided Jerusalem.&#8221; I appreciate the warm feelings, but I admit I was confused by your description of my city. Since you are a careful, wonky candidate, I figured you must have details at your disposal. So this morning I called a Palestinian cabby friend, and together we went looking for the &#8220;undivided Jerusalem.&#8221;<span id="more-576"></span></p>
<p>I live in Talpiot, an area that hugs the vanished DMZ that ran through part of the city between 1948 and 1967. The next neighborhood over, East Talpiot, was built after Israel annexed East Jerusalem and a swath of land around it in 1967. East Talpiot fills much of the vanished DMZ. It was part of the massive government effort to move Israeli Jews into the new areas and to erase the armistice line between Israel and Jordan. The apartment blocks sit on wide, tree-lined streets with brick-paved sidewalks. There are municipal playgrounds, and green park benches where the elderly can rest, and speed bumps to make life safer for kids crossing the streets. There is no marker to show where the armistice line once ran. If one drove no further, this might seem like the very vision of a city sewn seamlessly together.</p>
<p>But we drove on, into Jabel Mukaber, the Palestinian neighborhood immediately to the east. The community slopes down the side of a ridge toward a valley. We came in from the top, where a few of the streets have wisps of sidewalks. Further down, sidewalks vanish. School was letting out; a crowd of girls filled a narrow street while school buses tried to nudge their way through. The asphalt, cracked and faded, looked like a mere memory of pavement. Trash lay on the sides of the street and covered a hillside.</p></blockquote>
<p>For copyright reasons, please read <a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=a_note_to_hillary_on_jerusalem_disunited" target="_blank">the rest here</a>. But you can come back to South Jerusalem to comment.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m on the subject, <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/01/roger_cohen_to_hrc_time_for_to/" target="_blank">Todd Gitlin</a> alerts us to this piece by <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/opinion/01cohen.html" target="_blank">Roger Cohen</a>, also advising the new secretary of state that she should drop the old cliches about Israel:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think Olmert’s words should be emblazoned on the wall of Hillary Clinton’s eighth-floor State Department office: “We must reach an agreement with the Palestinians, meaning a withdrawal from nearly all, if not all, of the territories. Some percentage of these territories would remain in our hands, but we must give the Palestinians the same percentage elsewhere — without this, there will be no peace.”</p>
<p>Asked if this included a compromise on Jerusalem, Olmert said, “Including Jerusalem.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And yes, as <a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_case_for_putting_a_mideast_peace_agreement_first" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve mentioned before</a>, Olmert&#8217;s era will be remembered for the strange gap between his dovish and evermore desperate rhetoric and his failure to stop settlement growth or reach a peace agreement. It&#8217;s my belief that you know people by their contradictions. But rarely are the contradictions writ so large.</p>
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		<title>Mr. Obama, Did You Pack These Bags Yourself?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gershom Gorenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gershom Gorenberg At the airport, before his takeoff for the Middle East, no one will ask Barack Obama if he packed his bags himself. It would be rude, and besides he has a full-time handler for that. He never has the lurching feeling as the cab leaves his house that he left the tickets on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Gershom Gorenberg</strong></p>
<p>At the airport, before his takeoff for the Middle East, no one will ask Barack Obama if he packed his bags himself. It would be rude, and besides he has a full-time handler for that. He never has the lurching feeling as the cab leaves his house that he left the tickets on the kitchen table and a prescription in the medicine cabinet. Just writing those words, I finally understand the attraction of running for president.</p>
<p>He has, however, packed his political baggage himself. Mostly he&#8217;s done a good job &#8211; better, in fact, than one could expect.</p>
<p>First, he&#8217;s meeting with Palestinians as well as Israelis. At least <a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gb74O4BQazHg851HK-reWods9qYw" target="_blank">according to the Palestinian side</a>, Obama has put a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah on his schedule for next Wednesday. <a title="Barack's Pilgrimage" href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=baracks_pilgrimage" target="_blank">When I wrote</a> about his trip a couple of weeks ago, before the requisite leaks on the itinerary, I was afraid he&#8217;d decide it was politically inexpedient to make that stop, essential as it is. Symbolically, the Ramallah visit shows that he intends as president to talk to both Israelis and Palestinians, and that he&#8217;s serious about working for peace. Practically, it gives him the chance to see how Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayad respond to tough questions about the compromises they&#8217;ll need to make.</p>
<p>It would have been easy to skip Ramallah for fearing of losing Jewish votes, especially in swing states like Florida. The common mistake among candidates is to believe the rightwing minority in the U.S. Jewish community that purports to speak for the community as a whole,<span id="more-231"></span> and that regards any contact with Palestinians as betraying Israel. The incident that Connie Bruck reported in<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> his</span> her recent New Yorker piece on zillionaire ideologue Sheldon Adelson is typical:</p>
<blockquote><p>Adelson berated [former ambassador to Israel Martin] Indyk for hosting &#8220;terrorists&#8221; like Fayyad, who he said was a founder of Fatah. Indyk [now director of the Brookings Institution's Saban Center for Middle East Policy] is said to have replied that Fayyad was never involved in terrorism and was not a member of Fatah, and that Adelson&#8217;s problem was really with Olmert, because he dealt with Fayyad. Adelson stood his ground, and declared that the Olmert government was an illegitimate government and should be thrown out.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a point of principle, Obama&#8217;s refusal to give into that political reflex shows that he really is committed to peacemaking. Practically, it also makes sense. As James Baker might have advised Obama, &#8220;&#8212;- Adelson and his ilk, they&#8217;ll never vote for you anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand, as shown by <a title="J Street" href="http://www.jstreet.org/" target="_blank">J Street</a>&#8216;s new <a title="Survey of American Jewish Opinion" href="http://www.jstreet.org/files/images/SurveyAnalysisfinal.doc" target="_blank">poll of American Jewish political views</a>, released yesterday, most Jews are on Obama&#8217;s side on this as on other issues. Not only do US Jews believe overwhelmingly (90 percent to 10) that America is on the wrong track, not only do they believe (79-21%) that George W. Bush has mishandled Iraq, they believe (71-29%) that Bush has mishandled the Arab-Israeli conflict. Overwhelmingly, they want the U.S. to play a strong role in reaching peace, even if it means publicly stating disagreements with both the Arabs and Israel. By 59-41 percent they favor giving most of the West Bank and dismantling &#8220;many&#8221; settlements for peace. Obama isn&#8217;t going to drive away the Jews by showing he&#8217;s willing to get involved in making peace.</p>
<p>The one hawkish note in the survey was on the question about giving up Palestinian neighborhoods in East Jerusalem for peace. Here 44% of US Jews were in favor, 56% against. I don&#8217;t think that the people who answered in the negative on that question really picture the Arab neighborhoods of Sur Barhir or Beit Hanina, really understand how much of a different world they are from Jewish Jerusalem, how little the two parts of the city have been made into one.</p>
<p>Given Jews&#8217; generally dovish views, a politician ready to explain and lead could change the balance on this question. Last year, <a href="http://www.justhillary.com/herwords/israel0911.php" target="_blank">Hillary Clinton&#8217;s position paper</a> on Israel, with its promise of an &#8220;undivided Jerusalem,&#8221; <a title="A Note to Hillary on Jerusalem Disunited" href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=a_note_to_hillary_on_jerusalem_disunited" target="_blank">suggested that she wasn&#8217;t that politician.</a> When he addressed the AIPAC Conference in June, Obama also <a title="Obama at AIPAC, in the Capital of Nixonland" href="http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/obama-at-aipac-in-the-capital-of-nixonland/" target="_blank">seemed ready to pander</a>, promising that &#8220;Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.&#8221; When I criticized that statement, an Obama adviser quickly emailed to tell me the candidate really meant <em>physically</em> undivided: No fences. Political arrangements were a different matter.  Obama, he said,</p>
<blockquote><p>has said before that Jerusalem is a final status issue to be negotiated by the parties, but that two principles that should guide any outcome is that it will remain Israel&#8217;s capital and it should never be redivided by barbed wire and checkpoints as it was from 1948-67.</p></blockquote>
<p>Getting ready for his travels, Obama has gotten around to <a href="http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-34495420080713" target="_blank">saying the same thing</a> himself on camera:</p>
<blockquote><p>You know, the truth is that this was an example where we had some poor phrasing in the speech. And we immediately tried to correct the interpretation that was given&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s flipflopping only if the definition of &#8220;flipflopping&#8221; includes &#8220;saying something dumb to a receptive audience, and then having the sense to correct the mistake.&#8221; Better that he corrected himself, and will be arriving here with a a reasonable position on Jerusalem packed alongside his shirts and ties.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a flaw in his preparations, it may be that <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1823145,00.html" target="_blank">he&#8217;ll be coming</a> with Dennis Ross in his entourage, and without Rob Malley. (Thanks to <a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=07&amp;year=2008&amp;base_name=obama_and_dennis_ross" target="_blank">Ezra Klein</a> for flagging this.) I respect Ross, and the presence of the veteran negotiator is another signal that Obama wants to get down to work on Mideast peacemaking, as soon as he has gotten done with the pesky election and sent John McCain off for some <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/john-mccains-eu.html" target="_blank">remedial geography lessons</a>. (Full disclosure: Though I don&#8217;t know Ross personally, he endorsed my book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Accidental-Empire-Israel-Settlements-1967-1977/dp/0805082417/ref=ed_oe_p/102-7088012-5301724" target="_blank"><em>The Accidental Empire</em></a>.)</p>
<p>But Malley, a former Obama adviser, has written <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380" target="_blank">an essential account</a> of what went wrong at Camp David eight summers ago, when Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, and Yasser Arafat were such unhappy campers. In Malley&#8217;s picture, all three sides mishandled the negotiations. From my own experience with Barak, <a title="The Strange Case of Robert Malley" href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_strange_case_of_robert_malley" target="_blank">as I&#8217;ve written</a>, that&#8217;s also a more believable version than blaming Arafat alone. You can&#8217;t experience Barak, and not presume that he&#8217;d come unprepared, insult his negotiating partners and then blame everyone else. Which is certainly not to let Arafat off the hook.</p>
<p>With only Ross along to explain what&#8217;s gone wrong so far, there&#8217;s a a risk that Obama may find his baggage weighted to one side and unwieldy. As prep, he should make a late-night call to Rob Malley. It should include an offer of a business meeting the day after the voters let McCain go quietly back to Arizona.</p>
<p><strong>Also at South Jerusalem:</strong></p>
<p><strong><a title="Permanent Link to The Bush Doctrine: No Peace. (And What’s the McCain Doctrine?)" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/05/the-bush-doctrine-no-peace-and-whats-the-mccain-doctrine/">The Bush Doctrine: No Peace. (And What’s the McCain Doctrine?)</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a title="Permanent Link to Wright, Race and Contested Stories" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/04/wright-race-and-contested-stories/">Wright, Race and Contested Stories</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a title="Permanent Link to McCain, Hagee, Lieberman, Clinton, Obama: Who’s good for Israel" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/03/mccain-hagee-lieberman-clinton-obama-whos-good-for-israel/">McCain, Hagee, Lieberman, Clinton, Obama: Who’s good for Israel</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a title="Permanent Link to McCain: Uh, Sunni? Er, Shi’ite?" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/03/mccain-uh-sunni-er-shiite/">McCain: Uh, Sunni? Er, Shi’ite?</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Updates: Pipes&#8217; Pinocchios; Obama&#8217;s Gender; Undivided Jerusalem</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gershom Gorenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gershom Gorenberg The Washington Post&#8217;s campaign factchecker awards three Pinocchios to conservative rottweiler Floyd Brown &#8211; and to his pseudo-academic alter ego, Daniel Pipes &#8211; for promoting the canard was a Muslim as a child and is hiding the fact: &#8220;Both Brown and Pipes base their arguments and conclusions on factoids that have appeared in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong></strong><strong><a href="http://southjerusalem.com/category/gershom/" target="_blank">Gershom Gorenberg</a></strong></p>
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<li>The Washington Post&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/was_obama_a_muslim.html?hpid=sec-politics" target="_blank">campaign factchecker </a> awards three Pinocchios to conservative rottweiler Floyd Brown &#8211; and to his pseudo-academic alter ego, <a href="http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/29/swimsuit-extras-pipes-dreams/" target="_blank">Daniel Pipes </a> &#8211; for promoting the canard was a Muslim as a child and is hiding the fact: &#8220;Both Brown and Pipes base their arguments and conclusions on factoids that have appeared in the mainstream media. But they make no attempt to weigh the evidence fairly,&#8221; the Post said. In other words, they&#8217;re misusing some details to make up stories, as conspiracy theorists will. Pipes, we can be sure, will not be dissuaded from finding invidious Islamic plots everywhere.</li>
<li>Will Obama be the first woman president?<span id="more-167"></span> <a href="http://southjerusalem.com/2008/04/29/swimsuit-extras-pipes-dreams/" target="_blank">Susan Faludi explains</a> that Obama rejects that the &#8220;gender ethic&#8221; guiding American politics for two centuries, which says that the president must play the role of macho rescuer on the frontier, protecting the women and children of the wagon train. Under the current excuse for a president, the frontier fallacy that a Real Man in the White House will break heads has put America neck-deep in the Big Muddy of the Tigres. The one flaw I find in Faludi&#8217;s argument is her presumption that this is peculiarly American. <a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=tough_like_tzipi" target="_blank">Tzipi Livni&#8217;s need </a> to build herself a terrorist-hunting image is based on the same ethic and the peculiar burden it places on a woman candidate to out-macho the men.</li>
<li>An adviser to the Obama campaign has responded <a href="http://southjerusalem.com/2008/06/05/obama-at-aipac-in-the-capital-of-nixonland/" target="_blank">to my criticism</a> of O&#8217;s statement to Aipac, &#8220;Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.&#8221; The adviser, remaining anonymous, says that that the candidate really means physically undivided: Obama &#8220;has said before that Jerusalem is a final status issue to be negotiated by the parties, but that two principles that should guide any outcome is that it will remain Israel&#8217;s capital and it should never be redivided by barbed wire and checkpoints as it was from 1948-67.&#8221;  I&#8217;m satisfied with that as a position. I still think it was disingenuous and damaging to use the formulation he used before Aipac. The audience &#8211; in the hall, and around the world &#8211; heard &#8220;undivided Jerusalem&#8221; in the way that official Israel constantly uses the  phrase, meaning politically undivided. That was red meat for the Aipac crowd. Saying &#8220;physically undivided&#8221; would have been a red flag. Afterward, Obama had to clarify, or backtrack, or write a midrash on his own words, in order to maintain his dedication to effective diplomacy. Better not to have raised the issue. But then, Obama was talking to a crowd inclined to believe both Pinocchio Pipes and the frontier fallacy. He faced the classic dilemma of a high school kid at the wrong party &#8211; being yourself and being popular just don&#8217;t fit together.</li>
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